This online conversation between Zheng Bo and Yvonne Volkart took place on the occasion of the panel “Interspecies Love” as part of the Art-Science symposium “Kinship in Transformation”, curated by Maria Böhmer and Gioia Dal Molin, Istituto Svizzero Roma, May 28, 2024. Video editing: Felipe Castelblanco. The panel is a cooperation with the research project “Plants_Intelligence” at the Institute Art Gender Nature, Basel Academy of Art and Design FHNW, with the support of the Swiss National Science Foundation SNSF.